Using another INITQ than SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ

[AkBar Dar]

Is there a way to another INITQ to Start the channel, when message arrive? All I know that SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ will have to be the Initiation Queue. When I setup any other Queue as INITQ, Channel does not start.

I have

DEFINE QLOCAL(adtest) TRIGGER INITQ(ADTEST.QL)
USAGE(XMITQ) TRIGDATA(AD1.TO.AD2)

QUEUE(ADTEST.QL) TYPE(QLOCAL)
ACCTQ(QMGR) ALTDATE(2013-12-13)
ALTTIME(14.06.53) BOQNAME( )
BOTHRESH(0) CLUSNL( )
CLUSTER( ) CLWLPRTY(0)
CLWLRANK(0) CLWLUSEQ(QMGR)
CRDATE(2013-12-13) CRTIME(14.06.53)
CURDEPTH(0) DEFBIND(OPEN)
DEFPRTY(0) DEFPSIST(NO)
DEFSOPT(SHARED) DEFTYPE(PREDEFINED)
DESCR(initiation queue description) DISTL(NO)
GET(ENABLED) HARDENBO
INITQ( ) IPPROCS(0)
MAXDEPTH(5000) MAXMSGL(4194304)
MONQ(QMGR) MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY)
NOTRIGGER NPMCLASS(NORMAL)
OPPROCS(0) PROCESS( )
PUT(ENABLED) QDEPTHHI(80)
QDEPTHLO(20) QDPHIEV(DISABLED)
QDPLOEV(DISABLED) QDPMAXEV(ENABLED)
QSVCIEV(NONE) QSVCINT(999999999)
RETINTVL(999999999) SCOPE(QMGR)
SHARE STATQ(QMGR)
TRIGDATA( ) TRIGDPTH(1)
TRIGMPRI(0) TRIGTYPE(FIRST)
USAGE(NORMAL)

And


Regards,
AkBar Dar

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[Neil Casey]

Hello,

You can use a different INITQ. There is an option on the runmqchi command to specify the INITQ that you want it to use…

See http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv7/v7r5/topic/com.ibm.mq.ref.adm.doc/q083400_.htm

In theory, you could also write your own version of the channel initiator, which would listen for the messages and start the channels, but I don’t know why you would want to do that.

Regards,

Neil
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Post by AkBar Dar
Is there a way to another INITQ to Start the channel, when message arrive? All I know that SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ will have to be the Initiation Queue. When I setup any other Queue as INITQ, Channel does not start.
I have
DEFINE QLOCAL(adtest) TRIGGER INITQ(ADTEST.QL)
USAGE(XMITQ) TRIGDATA(AD1.TO.AD2)
QUEUE(ADTEST.QL) TYPE(QLOCAL)
ACCTQ(QMGR) ALTDATE(2013-12-13)
ALTTIME(14.06.53) BOQNAME( )
BOTHRESH(0) CLUSNL( )
CLUSTER( ) CLWLPRTY(0)
CLWLRANK(0) CLWLUSEQ(QMGR)
CRDATE(2013-12-13) CRTIME(14.06.53)
CURDEPTH(0) DEFBIND(OPEN)
DEFPRTY(0) DEFPSIST(NO)
DEFSOPT(SHARED) DEFTYPE(PREDEFINED)
DESCR(initiation queue description) DISTL(NO)
GET(ENABLED) HARDENBO
INITQ( ) IPPROCS(0)
MAXDEPTH(5000) MAXMSGL(4194304)
MONQ(QMGR) MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY)
NOTRIGGER NPMCLASS(NORMAL)
OPPROCS(0) PROCESS( )
PUT(ENABLED) QDEPTHHI(80)
QDEPTHLO(20) QDPHIEV(DISABLED)
QDPLOEV(DISABLED) QDPMAXEV(ENABLED)
QSVCIEV(NONE) QSVCINT(999999999)
RETINTVL(999999999) SCOPE(QMGR)
SHARE STATQ(QMGR)
TRIGDATA( ) TRIGDPTH(1)
TRIGMPRI(0) TRIGTYPE(FIRST)
USAGE(NORMAL)
And
Regards,
AkBar Dar
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[Paul Clarke]

Would you like to say why you want to use a different initiation queue ? What problem are you trying to solve ?

Cheers,
Paul.

Paul Clarke
www.mqgem.com

From: AkBar Dar
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:56 PM
To: MQSERIES-0lvw86wZMd9k/bWDasg6f+***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Using another INITQ than SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ

Is there a way to another INITQ to Start the channel, when message arrive? All I know that SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ will have to be the Initiation Queue. When I setup any other Queue as INITQ, Channel does not start.



I have



DEFINE QLOCAL(adtest) TRIGGER INITQ(ADTEST.QL)

USAGE(XMITQ) TRIGDATA(AD1.TO.AD2)



QUEUE(ADTEST.QL) TYPE(QLOCAL)

ACCTQ(QMGR) ALTDATE(2013-12-13)

ALTTIME(14.06.53) BOQNAME( )

BOTHRESH(0) CLUSNL( )

CLUSTER( ) CLWLPRTY(0)

CLWLRANK(0) CLWLUSEQ(QMGR)

CRDATE(2013-12-13) CRTIME(14.06.53)

CURDEPTH(0) DEFBIND(OPEN)

DEFPRTY(0) DEFPSIST(NO)

DEFSOPT(SHARED) DEFTYPE(PREDEFINED)

DESCR(initiation queue description) DISTL(NO)

GET(ENABLED) HARDENBO

INITQ( ) IPPROCS(0)

MAXDEPTH(5000) MAXMSGL(4194304)

MONQ(QMGR) MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY)

NOTRIGGER NPMCLASS(NORMAL)

OPPROCS(0) PROCESS( )

PUT(ENABLED) QDEPTHHI(80)

QDEPTHLO(20) QDPHIEV(DISABLED)

QDPLOEV(DISABLED) QDPMAXEV(ENABLED)

QSVCIEV(NONE) QSVCINT(999999999)

RETINTVL(999999999) SCOPE(QMGR)

SHARE STATQ(QMGR)

TRIGDATA( ) TRIGDPTH(1)

TRIGMPRI(0) TRIGTYPE(FIRST)

USAGE(NORMAL)



And





Regards,

AkBar Dar



Telecommute Day: Wednesday



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[AkBar Dar]

I have couple of transmit queues which are associated two different Sender channels. I just want to make sure that appropriate Sender starts, when message arrives on the queue.

This is why was looking for an other queue.


Regards,
AkBar Dar

Telecommute Day: Wednesday
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Subject: Re: Using another INITQ than SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ

Would you like to say why you want to use a different initiation queue ? What problem are you trying to solve ?

Cheers,
Paul.

Paul Clarke
www.mqgem.com

From: AkBar Dar<mailto:Akbar.Dar-***@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Using another INITQ than SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ

Is there a way to another INITQ to Start the channel, when message arrive? All I know that SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ will have to be the Initiation Queue. When I setup any other Queue as INITQ, Channel does not start.

I have

DEFINE QLOCAL(adtest) TRIGGER INITQ(ADTEST.QL)
USAGE(XMITQ) TRIGDATA(AD1.TO.AD2)

QUEUE(ADTEST.QL) TYPE(QLOCAL)
ACCTQ(QMGR) ALTDATE(2013-12-13)
ALTTIME(14.06.53) BOQNAME( )
BOTHRESH(0) CLUSNL( )
CLUSTER( ) CLWLPRTY(0)
CLWLRANK(0) CLWLUSEQ(QMGR)
CRDATE(2013-12-13) CRTIME(14.06.53)
CURDEPTH(0) DEFBIND(OPEN)
DEFPRTY(0) DEFPSIST(NO)
DEFSOPT(SHARED) DEFTYPE(PREDEFINED)
DESCR(initiation queue description) DISTL(NO)
GET(ENABLED) HARDENBO
INITQ( ) IPPROCS(0)
MAXDEPTH(5000) MAXMSGL(4194304)
MONQ(QMGR) MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY)
NOTRIGGER NPMCLASS(NORMAL)
OPPROCS(0) PROCESS( )
PUT(ENABLED) QDEPTHHI(80)
QDEPTHLO(20) QDPHIEV(DISABLED)
QDPLOEV(DISABLED) QDPMAXEV(ENABLED)
QSVCIEV(NONE) QSVCINT(999999999)
RETINTVL(999999999) SCOPE(QMGR)
SHARE STATQ(QMGR)
TRIGDATA( ) TRIGDPTH(1)
TRIGMPRI(0) TRIGTYPE(FIRST)
USAGE(NORMAL)

And


Regards,
AkBar Dar

Telecommute Day: Wednesday

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[Neil Casey]

Hi,

You really don’t want to do it that way.

The channel initiator is designed so that you have 1 process monitoring the initq for all channels. This keeps the overheads low (only one process to support all channels). Correct configuration of the channels and transmission queues will ensure that the correct channel is started in response to the need.

The trigger message contains the original transmission queue name and various other information. You can either include the channel name in the TRIGDATA of the transmission queues, or you can leave it blank and MQ will find a channel which has that transmission queue, and start that channel.

Regards,



Neil
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Post by AkBar Dar
I have couple of transmit queues which are associated two different Sender channels. I just want to make sure that appropriate Sender starts, when message arrives on the queue.
This is why was looking for an other queue.
Regards,
AkBar Dar
Telecommute Day: Wednesday
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 5:13:08 PM
Subject: Re: Using another INITQ than SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ
Would you like to say why you want to use a different initiation queue ? What problem are you trying to solve ?
Cheers,
Paul.
Paul Clarke
www.mqgem.com
From: AkBar Dar
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:56 PM
Subject: Using another INITQ than SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ
Is there a way to another INITQ to Start the channel, when message arrive? All I know that SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ will have to be the Initiation Queue. When I setup any other Queue as INITQ, Channel does not start.
I have
DEFINE QLOCAL(adtest) TRIGGER INITQ(ADTEST.QL)
USAGE(XMITQ) TRIGDATA(AD1.TO.AD2)
QUEUE(ADTEST.QL) TYPE(QLOCAL)
ACCTQ(QMGR) ALTDATE(2013-12-13)
ALTTIME(14.06.53) BOQNAME( )
BOTHRESH(0) CLUSNL( )
CLUSTER( ) CLWLPRTY(0)
CLWLRANK(0) CLWLUSEQ(QMGR)
CRDATE(2013-12-13) CRTIME(14.06.53)
CURDEPTH(0) DEFBIND(OPEN)
DEFPRTY(0) DEFPSIST(NO)
DEFSOPT(SHARED) DEFTYPE(PREDEFINED)
DESCR(initiation queue description) DISTL(NO)
GET(ENABLED) HARDENBO
INITQ( ) IPPROCS(0)
MAXDEPTH(5000) MAXMSGL(4194304)
MONQ(QMGR) MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY)
NOTRIGGER NPMCLASS(NORMAL)
OPPROCS(0) PROCESS( )
PUT(ENABLED) QDEPTHHI(80)
QDEPTHLO(20) QDPHIEV(DISABLED)
QDPLOEV(DISABLED) QDPMAXEV(ENABLED)
QSVCIEV(NONE) QSVCINT(999999999)
RETINTVL(999999999) SCOPE(QMGR)
SHARE STATQ(QMGR)
TRIGDATA( ) TRIGDPTH(1)
TRIGMPRI(0) TRIGTYPE(FIRST)
USAGE(NORMAL)
And
Regards,
AkBar Dar
Telecommute Day: Wednesday
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[Paul Clarke]

It is not necessary to have a channel initiator per channel and, to be honest, it is not possible to maintain segregation. Although you can ensure that different initiators will receive different trigger messages you can not guarantee that any RETRY processing will not be done by ‘the other’ initiator. For many people it is also just not feasible to have a channel initiator for every defined channel, some people have thousands of sender channels. Since the workload on a channel initiator is very low a single channel initiator should be all you need no matter how many channels you have. So, my advice would be to keep things simple. Just stay with the default settings.

Cheers,
Paul.

Paul Clarke
www.mqgem.com

From: AkBar Dar
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:36 AM
To: MQSERIES-0lvw86wZMd9k/bWDasg6f+***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Using another INITQ than SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ

I have couple of transmit queues which are associated two different Sender channels. I just want to make sure that appropriate Sender starts, when message arrives on the queue.

This is why was looking for an other queue.


Regards,
AkBar Dar

Telecommute Day: Wednesday
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Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 5:13:08 PM
To: MQSERIES-0lvw86wZMd9k/bWDasg6f+***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Using another INITQ than SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ

Would you like to say why you want to use a different initiation queue ? What problem are you trying to solve ?

Cheers,
Paul.

Paul Clarke
www.mqgem.com

From: AkBar Dar
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:56 PM
To: MQSERIES-0lvw86wZMd9k/bWDasg6f+***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Using another INITQ than SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ

Is there a way to another INITQ to Start the channel, when message arrive? All I know that SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ will have to be the Initiation Queue. When I setup any other Queue as INITQ, Channel does not start.



I have



DEFINE QLOCAL(adtest) TRIGGER INITQ(ADTEST.QL)

USAGE(XMITQ) TRIGDATA(AD1.TO.AD2)



QUEUE(ADTEST.QL) TYPE(QLOCAL)

ACCTQ(QMGR) ALTDATE(2013-12-13)

ALTTIME(14.06.53) BOQNAME( )

BOTHRESH(0) CLUSNL( )

CLUSTER( ) CLWLPRTY(0)

CLWLRANK(0) CLWLUSEQ(QMGR)

CRDATE(2013-12-13) CRTIME(14.06.53)

CURDEPTH(0) DEFBIND(OPEN)

DEFPRTY(0) DEFPSIST(NO)

DEFSOPT(SHARED) DEFTYPE(PREDEFINED)

DESCR(initiation queue description) DISTL(NO)

GET(ENABLED) HARDENBO

INITQ( ) IPPROCS(0)

MAXDEPTH(5000) MAXMSGL(4194304)

MONQ(QMGR) MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY)

NOTRIGGER NPMCLASS(NORMAL)

OPPROCS(0) PROCESS( )

PUT(ENABLED) QDEPTHHI(80)

QDEPTHLO(20) QDPHIEV(DISABLED)

QDPLOEV(DISABLED) QDPMAXEV(ENABLED)

QSVCIEV(NONE) QSVCINT(999999999)

RETINTVL(999999999) SCOPE(QMGR)

SHARE STATQ(QMGR)

TRIGDATA( ) TRIGDPTH(1)

TRIGMPRI(0) TRIGTYPE(FIRST)

USAGE(NORMAL)



And





Regards,

AkBar Dar



Telecommute Day: Wednesday



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